Thursday, November 15, 2012

The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?)– Part 6 – The Connection


In summary a group of people have been after me for years and have completed a 12-year investigation into the history of FR in an attempt to discredit me. They allege that we copied the idea from them through contact with a developer that they had engaged to write their website and that we lied about our launch and have been doing so ever since. They have been contacting us on and off for 7 years. In August we received an email and a 21-page summary of their investigation.

For background to this story read:
Part 1 - Introduction
Part 2 – The Claim
Part 3 – The Contact
Part 4 – The Email
Part 5 – The Document

The main part of their claim is that we knew the developer that they were going to use for their own website back in 2000, and that he told us their idea and we went onto copy it.

After 12 years of investigation, 120 pages of notes, numerous private investigators, friends, solicitors, police officers, and many more people and probably hundreds of man-hours, the proof of our connection with this developer is listed below on the next page. (Please scroll down)





















































That’s it

That’s the proof they have found – nothing – a blank page.

I told them from first contact that I did not know and had never met this person,. However, like everything else I was not believed on this. You would have thought by now after 12 years that the lack of evidence was proof enough. Of course you can’t prove something that didn’t happen, but they now propose to create a website, put up a 250K reward (jaw drop!) for information and to use social marketing to try and find a link that doesn’t exist.

It seems so strange that all their efforts were put into this one act. Why did they not try and use their resource to try and confirm anything about the history of FR that is in the public domain.

I am a big believer in the theory of 6-degrees of separation. Where everyone is connected to everyone through 6 different people. I believe there are probably many connections between their developer and me – in fact it should be a lot less than 6. Think about it – we are both developers and live in the SE of England. That should be easy to find a spurious link or two. Or so you would think. I hope they haven’t paid too much to their various private investigators.

However, I would like to come to the rescue and save a lot of time and money.

When I knew I was meeting one of these people (lets call him Mr A) earlier this year, I spent half an hour the night before trying to find Mr A on LinkedIn. It didn’t take long.

And there down the right hand side of the screen is LinkedIn’s very own 6-degree style connection. It had me -> connected to one of my contacts -> connected to one of Mr A’s contacts -> connected to Mr A and the main person behind all of this.

A connection in 3 degrees.

And since Mr A employed their developer back in 2000 when this all started, then he is connected to the developer.

I found the link.

I printed it out and showed him the next day. I don’t think he got the irony.

Can I claim my £250,000 now please.

Coming Next – The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 7 – The FACTS behind FriendsReunited

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Monday, November 12, 2012

The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 5 – The Document


In summary a group of people have been after me for years and have completed a 12-year investigation into the history of FR in an attempt to discredit me. They allege that we copied the idea from them through contact with a developer that they had engaged to write their website and that we lied about our launch and have been doing so ever since. They have been contacting us on and off for 7 years. In August we received an email and a 21-page summary of their investigation.

For background to this story read:
Part 1 - Introduction
Part 2 – The Claim
Part 3 – The Contact
Part 4 – The Email

The document I received attached to that Email don’t forget was a summary of a 120-page document of the complete investigation. They haven’t shown me this – on one hand I would love to peruse it, to see what more these people have been up to.  However, if its anything like the summary then perhaps best I don’t see it.

I received the 21-page document in August this year, whilst on holiday with my family. It took me 24 hours to find a laptop that would open it as it was in an old version of Word. Once I did and started reading it I could not believe what I was seeing.

For most of the previous seven years I thought these people had gone away – that’s what they led me to believe in 2005. However, the things they did, the tactics they used, the people they allege to have involved is mind blowing. I couldn’t actually read the document from start to finish as it made me so angry on nearly every page.

I have to admit here that for the first time I lost it. Yes I had got angry previously at their communication and insinuation, but this was unbelievable. Some of the things made me feel physically sick. I decided it was best I take a break from my family holiday, as I didn’t want the kids to see me stressed and angry. Thanks for that, guys!

And the reason for my anger, apart from the allegations against me, was the tactics – following people; recording my conversations, turning up at friends’ houses and hassling them and then calling them liars; phoning friends and harassing them; warping things we said to suit their agenda;  the use of a fraud squad officer to investigate us; use of home office officials, senior police officers, legal experts, solicitors, authors…. You get the gist.

I started by going through their 21-page summary document line by line and making comments. You can imagine how slow a process this is. However, by the conclusion I realised a number of things.

Firstly, after 12 years there isn’t a shred of evidence to support any of these people’s wild claims, as I would have expected (given that their claims are utterly untrue). This is after 12 years of investigations, use of numerous supposed experts and lots – maybe hundreds - of man-hours.

Secondly, the document itself is all over the place in its comments, questions and summaries. I could not even work out what they were suggesting we did in places as it keeps changing its mind.

Thirdly, it is just full of sections of transcripts from conversations, emails, phone conversations and meetings. A lot is out of context and ALL the conclusions are based on these peoples’ strange interpretation of what peoples’ answers, written and spoken, mannerisms and body language mean. A single hesitation, a simple negative answer, a mistake, a hint of anger all become a scripted cover-up or lie. It is classic conspiracy stuff.

And finally, they had concentrated almost completely on trying to find a link between ourselves and their developer, and in trying to disprove the one fact, namely our URL registration date, that should have put a lid on this at the start. They at no point tried to gain proof behind any of our well documented history of FR – as I will show later in another blog, a simple email and phone call to the current owners of FR would have given them easily-accessible concrete evidence of our start date – why hadn’t they thought of doing this at any time?

I decided it was pointless directly answering any of the points, because these people would then do the usual and twist them to suit the conspiracy they allege to have taken place.

It appears a lot of people had been roped into this investigation – family friends, fraud squad officer, an author, private investigators, senior police officers, a Home Office director, ‘leading’ legal experts, various solicitors to name some of those who are mentioned. The list is incredible. However, I sort of sympathise with them all. If you were blind to the whole story and read their document as I was given it – with lots of information missing and with everything we said or did massaged into the conspiracy – then I can sort of see someone might say “You might be onto something there”.

However, that’s where my sympathies stop.  Did any one of these people, I wonder, just stop and ask the question: is there a chance that we might have been telling the truth all along and there was no conspiracy ?

Back to the document – I am not going to publish it. I would love to. However too many people are mentioned who don’t deserve to get pulled into this. It also has many legal aspects, which I am still looking into and will pursue.

Apart from the legal elements – upon which I may do a separate blog – I have pages on sections of just ludicrous stuff. The Ridiculous as I call it will form a very long blog in a week or 2.

I cant believe anyone has really given the go ahead to release this document – its so full of unbelievable claims that at best make the author look embarrassing and at worst put the author in legal quicksand if published.

Coming Next – The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 6 – The Connection

@spankyhurst

Friday, November 9, 2012

The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 4 – The Email


In summary a group of people have been after me for years and have completed a 12-year investigation into the history of FR in an attempt to discredit me. They allege that we copied the idea from them through contact with a developer that they had engaged to write their website, and that we lied about our launch and have been doing so ever since. They have been contacting us on and off for 7 years.

For background to this story read:
Part 1 - Introduction
Part 2 – The Claim

Let me just state my utter contempt for the email and document that we received on 11th August 2012.

Lets just go straight into the email:

“To Steve,

I have attached a (moderated) copy of a 21 page summary of events surrounding my 12 year investigation into the launch of your website. I'd like to offer you 36 hours to preview the summary, just in case you have anything new to add, or perhaps you might like to reconsider some of your earlier comments?

In a few days I will have emigrated from the UK so I have had to use my youngest sons's e-mail address. Once I am overseas, the Investigation will continue in the care of my 2 sons who, after a continued research, aim to find the social connection with the Developer. At the same time, an extensive national marketing campaign will be initiated by them, in the following order:

1. The summary will be released by my 2 sons, to 20,000 students at their respective Universities, initiating a viral marketing campaign.
2. Then it will appear on a new and bespoke "Reward for Information" website, with a £250k reward offered for information.
3. After a few weeks, the full findings will be shared with national media.
4. A book is being commissioned, by a recognised UK author (family friend) pending the final outcomes of the investigation.

The summary has been put together from facts received over 12 years of detailed investigation. The facts are then supported by my own, personal observations; even if you find them distasteful, there is nothing libellous or illegal.”


Now for my comments on this email.
What the %$£@ %*&£ ^%£@ *&%$ *&^% (sorry my kids read my blogs sometimes)

·               36 hours – are they serious? This is 12 years of investigation and maybe hundreds of man-hours of work they are asking me to review. I ignored the deadline of course.

·               This is just a 21-page summary – how many pages are in the full document? (a previous letter states that they have over 120 pages of material)

·               I have blanked out the name of the developer. This person has done nothing wrong and all he did was not write a system for these people. They have hassled him previously too. As I do not know him I don’t think it is fair to draw him into this.

·               We find it strange they provide this now after 12 years just as one of them is apparently emigrating from the country, leaving what could well become a nasty mess behind for his sons.

·               The 4 points they list are quite frankly rather threatening

·               The reward offered has created a jaw-dropping moment for everyone who has seen it. It is an absurd amount of money. We would have been shocked even if it was a tenth of that amount. I cannot even say it without doing a Dr Evil impersonation.

·               Having read the document, in reality it contains no pertinent facts and contains much that would, if published, be libelous, as well as disclosing the use of illegal methods in their vain search for material that would discredit us.

·               And yes, I do find them distasteful in the extreme

Lets leave this one at that shall we – I am not sure what else there is to say about an email like that, but you can imagine I could write a lot more and a lot worse.

Coming next – The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 5 – The Document

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Thursday, November 8, 2012

The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 3 – The Contact


In summary a group of people have been after me for years and have completed a 12-year investigation into the history of FR in an attempt to discredit me.

For background to this story read:
Part 1 - Introduction
Part 2 – The Claim

These people first contacted us in May 2005. It appears now that suspicions and investigations had been going on for a number of years already. The letter we received was quite innocent – we don’t still have a copy but from recollection it claimed to be from someone doing some research into the history of FR. Quite a few people had done thesis pieces on FR over the years and we were always happy to help.

Julie replied very innocently to the letter.

One point here to remember is that even though Julie had the original idea of FR, when we launched in summer of 2000 we had a few month old baby and Julie did not get involved in any of the setup or technical running of any of our sites. That was the job of Jason and I. FR, as you can imagine at first launch, had no members and so over the coming next 6 months was more of a hobby for Julie, which she did in her spare time and worked really hard doing so. I mention this because in answering one of the questions raised by these people, she incorrectly replied that our ISP was a company called Densitron. We actually launched all our initial websites using a different ISP local to me called Aflex. After 6 months we moved to one nearer Jason in Kent – this was called Densitron.

A simple error by someone not closely involved in the technical side of our small setup. Or so you would think. However, as you will see in a blog, this error was in fact seen as the first breach in the edifice of the sprawling, dark conspiracy we were supposed to have engaged in.

Over the course of the next few months we received several more letters and emails from these people. Also, during this time, FR had entered into the initial process of due diligence for a sale of the business – eventually selling to ITV in December 2005.

I was always friendly in response to these peoples’ communications – in fact one time I phoned one of them up and explained the history of FR. I genuinely did not want them to waste their time – and mine for that matter.

The one determinative piece of information I pointed out to these people was the date of registration of the FriendsReunited URL: this is publically available to everyone on the Nominet database – it is 30th June 2000. Since they stated they only had their initial idea for a reunion-type site in July 2000, I felt this was enough to disabuse them of, and to stop them continuing to worry about, their claims.

They then asked for a copy of the invoice for the FR domain registration.

Whilst annoying, I got it scanned and sent over.

This was apparently not enough, and they asked to see the original.

Again trying to help but realizing this was beginning to get a bit stupid, I allowed them to see the original – by letting them come to our offices. Let’s face it, all these things only took a few minutes and should have drawn a line under things.

However, this still was not enough. I received a letter in September 2005 claiming the original invoice did not prove anything, and maintaining that more investigation needed to be done on it. What further investigation?? Forensic evidence?? Carbon dating??

Obviously this was enough for me now. I had up to this point been more than helpful – answering letters, talking on the phone, scanning in documents and letting them into our offices. I sent an email explaining my disgust and anger at their insinuations and their claims of us lying about the history of FR.

In response, I received an apology and confirmation that they would not be pursuing their claim any more. I still have that email.

However, the very next day I was called by a Times journalist explaining that she had been sent a “dossier” of information claiming we had stolen the FR idea from these people. I disclosed all communication and unsurprisingly the story never ran. I won’t reveal what exactly the journalist said about the dossier, but you can probably guess.

That was it for 7 years – no communication. I thought they had gone away.

In May this year, I received a letter from a Private Investigator. It claimed all kind of things – “ambiguity” and “questions are still un-answered”.

Here we go again I thought – pretty shocked at some of the language used.

Although pretty annoyed to have to explain all this again, I was sort of intrigued too. I knew there was no link to these people but started to wonder what they had actually been up to over these past 7 years – and what information they had employed the PI to gather.

I immediately tried to call the number on the letter. After a few missed calls I managed to speak to the PI a few days later. I explained the history of these people, but he was having none of it. I don’t really have any beef with the PI as of course he was being paid by his client. However, some of his insinuations and his insistence on meeting in person did make me angry. To be honest, anyone faced with these spurious claims would be entitled to become a little peeved.

A few weeks later I found out that another PI had called my old business partner’s ex-wife trying to fish for information. I was very angry, and when I next received communication from the PI I made it clear that they must focus their investigation on me alone.

At this point we realized these people were not going to go away. Julie and I are always very open and would never want to hide behind anything. Particularly when it comes to some people trying to discredit us. So instead of meeting just the PI, we insisted that one of the people behind all of this meet with us to put his ridiculous claims directly to our faces.

Rightly or wrongly we did so. I am actually pleased we did because it put a real identity to these people at last.

However I must admit I didn’t expect what we got. We met them for an hour and for the first 30 minutes Julie and I told them the story of FR from its inception. This included a part which we rarely told – Julie actually had the spark of the idea from tracking down her Grandfather she had never met using the Internet in 1999. Now Julie is one of the most decent and genuine people you would ever meet. As the meeting progressed it became clear that they were dismissing everything we said – so much so that they then asked me to sign a document to allow them to have access to old invoices generated by our first ISP, as they needed these for “proof”. As you can imagine this was outrageous. Basically they were calling us liars to our faces and saying everything we had just told them was some sort of cover-up script. Julie got very upset – understandably, and I realised very quickly that nothing we would say or do would ever convince them. Enough was enough. I decided I would not help them or communicate with them any more.

I had never been so disgusted – however, this was just the tip of the iceberg as I was soon to find out.

Whilst away on our summer holidays this year, I received further communication from the PI – a 2 page letter from these people saying our meeting had just raised more unanswered questions.

Sigh. I ignored it. However after a few days I admit it niggled away and I started writing a blog with the thought of going public, but I never got the opportunity to post it.

This was because 2 weeks later we got another email – probably the most disgusting and shocking email I have ever received…

Coming next – The FriendsReunited Conspiracy (?) – Part 4 – The Email

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